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Cloud behemoth AWS says it is facing stiff competition from on-premises infrastructure, which is a turnaround from its once-proud boast that all workloads would eventually move to the cloud.

In a summary of evidence given to UK watchdog, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), AWS denies that customers face any difficulty in switching from its platform. And to demonstrate this, AWS lists examples of customers returning from the cloud to run their IT on site.

In the CMA report, AWS says: "building a datacenter requires significant effort, so the fact that customers are doing it highlights the level of flexibility that they have and the attractiveness of moving back to on-premises."

You read that correctly – customers are finding that moving their IT back on-premises is so attractive compared with remaining on AWS that they are prepared to do this despite the significant effort involved. Hardly a resounding endorsement of the benefits of the cloud.

AWS also says that customers may switch back to on-premises for a number of reasons, including "to reallocate their own internal finances, adjust their access to technology and increase the ownership of their resources, data and security."

In fact, there have been a growing number of cases of companies moving some or even all their workloads back from the cloud – so-called cloud repatriation – and cost often seems to be a factor.

One notable example we have covered before is Basecamp project management developer 37Signals, which decided to go back to on-premises infrastructure after being presented with a $3.2 million cloud hosting bill. By the end of last year, the company claimed it had already made savings of $1 million.

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But is AWS really facing a big challenge from on-premises infrastructure in the UK, or is this just an evasion tactic to deter the regulator from proposing potentially unpalatable remedies? We asked the company if it could tell us how many of its customers had moved back from the cloud.

AWS responded by quoting figures which indicate that of all UK organizations that have switched from cloud infrastructure providers, 29 percent had switched to on-premises services. This, however, includes customers of all cloud providers, and doesn't put specific numbers to those doing it.

Andrew Buss, IDC senior research director for EMEA, told The Register that while cloud repatriation is becoming more common, "we'd put the share of companies actively repatriating public cloud workloads in the single digit percentage sphere."

Organizations are more likely to move to another public cloud provider if the incumbent is not meeting their needs, he said, and they have got more used to the cost economics of public cloud and can compare it to the long-term costs of running private IT infrastructure.

A more important trend in EMEA is that over half of companies still have a preference to deploy workloads into their private IT infrastructure, Buss added, and only around 12 percent are public cloud first.

However, the IDC analyst noted there is a growing trend for enterprises to favor private cloud infrastructure that is standardized and off-the-shelf, such as Azure Stack, AWS Outposts, or VMware Cloud Foundation.

The latest report [PDF] is a summary of the CMA's hearing with AWS as part of its investigation into the UK cloud services market, probing whether the biggest cloud players engage in practices that may limit customer choice.

In it, AWS claims that some customers tend to use a single cloud provider such as itself because it may be cheaper operationally and easier to maintain and run their workloads that way. Certain customers may not be able to justify investing in staff training to use an alternative cloud provider, it says, which sounds like an admission that there are some barriers to operating a multi-cloud environment.

In fact, AWS at one time seemed to be discouraging customers from using any other cloud provider. Way back in 2016, then CEO Andy Jassy spoke against the idea, telling attendees of a conference that if they wanted to go multi-cloud, they would have to standardize on the lowest common denominator, and other platforms were nowhere close to the same level as AWS.

Now AWS says in the hearing report it "has determined that supporting customers to multi-cloud is the stronger commercial incentive," but goes on to caution the CMA on proposed remedies involving data transfer and interoperability, saying such efforts "may simply result in an unhelpful de minimis standard".

The cloud giant also took a swipe at Microsoft for its cloud licensing restrictions on key applications, and defended the practice of Committed Spend Agreements (CSAs), whereby customers get a discount for agreeing in advance to a certain level of use – identified by the CMA as a potential way of discouraging customers from switching.

AWS said that without CSAs, there would be less predictability in its own revenues, which would likely make the company more cautious in how it invests in the business.

The CMA's next provisional report on the cloud market is due in September or October, and its final report is expected in April 2025. ®

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Leserbrief zum Gerücht, dass der Mossad den Sprengstoff im Elektrolyten des Akkus untergebracht hat:
ich bin Wissenschaftler und arbeite seit 5 Jahren an (Li-Ionen)Akkus. Wir bauen viele Li-Ionen Akkus zusammen, und auch kommerzielle Akkus auseinander, um Einzelkomponenten zu analysieren.

Du schreibst
> Die aktuelle Gerüchteküche sagt, dass die Sprengstoff in der
> Flüssigkomponente der Li-Ion-Akkus gelöst transportiert haben sollen.

Das ist ziemlich sicher sehr falsch.

  1. in so einem Akku sind chemisch extreme Bedingungen (Spannungen 3- 4.5 V).
    Es gibt nur sehr wenige Stoffe die da stabil sind. Wasser hat sich da schon lange verabschiedet.
  2. In Akkus ist nicht viel Elektrolyt (= "Flüssigkomponente") drin, man versucht das Volumen eher klein zu halten. Und ein Pager-Akku ist klein. Da dürften vermutlich kaum mehr als 1 bis 2 ml Elektrolytvolumen verbaut sein.

    Die angegebenen 20 g passen niemals in den Akku.

  3. Die Elektrolyte sind hoch entwickelte, hochreine und genau auf die Anwendung abgestimmte High-Tech Produkte. Du kannst da nicht einfach beliebig irgendwelchen Dreck drin lösen und denken, dass der Akku dann funktioniert. Ganz im Gegenteil - kleine Rückstände von irgendwas können dir eine ganze Batteriezelle killen. Man bedenke: wenn die Pager vor 5 Monaten importiert wurden, haben sie wohl mindestens ein halbes Jahr funktioniert.

Der Mossad kann bestimmt einiges, aber einen Spreng-Elektrolyten bekommen selbst die nicht hin.

Das freut mich zu hören :-)
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Pluralistic: There's no such thing as "shareholder supremacy" (18 Sep 2024)

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The ruins of the Temple of Jupiter, taken in the late 18th century, overlooking a stretch Lebanon. It has been emblazoned with the 1970s-era logo for the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. Before it stands a figure taken from an early 1900s illustrated bible, depicting a Hebrew priest making an offering to the golden calf at the foot of Mt Sinai. The priest's head has been replaced with the head of Milton Friedman. The calf has been adorned with a golden top-hat and a radiating halo of white light.

There's no such thing as "shareholder supremacy" (permalink)

Here's a cheap trick: claim that your opponents' goals are so squishy and qualitative that no one will ever be able to say whether they've been succeeded or failed, and then declare that your goals can be evaluated using crisp, objective criteria.

This is the whole project of "economism," the idea that politics, with its emphasis on "fairness" and other intangibles, should be replaced with a mathematical form of economics, where every policy question can be reduced to an equation…and then "solved":

https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/28/imagine-a-horse/#perfectly-spherical-cows-of-uniform-density-on-a-frictionless-plane

Before the rise of economism, it was common to speak of its subjects as "political economy" or even "moral philosophy" (Adam Smith, the godfather of capitalism, considered himself a "moral philosopher"). "Political economy" implicitly recognizes that every policy has squishy, subjective, qualitative dimensions that don't readily boil down to math.

For example, if you're asking about whether people should have the "freedom" to enter into contracts, it might be useful to ask yourself how desperate your "free" subject might be, and whether the entity on the other side of that contract is very powerful. Otherwise you'll get "free contracts" like "I'll sell you my kidneys if you promise to evacuate my kid from the path of this wildfire."

The problem is that power is hard to represent faithfully in quantitative models. This may seem like a good reason to you to be skeptical of modeling, but for economism, it's a reason to pretend that the qualitative doesn't exist. The method is to incinerate those qualitative factors to produce a dubious quantitative residue and do math on that:

https://locusmag.com/2021/05/cory-doctorow-qualia/

Hence the famous Ely Devons quote: "If economists wished to study the horse, they wouldn’t go and look at horses. They’d sit in their studies and say to themselves, ‘What would I do if I were a horse?’"

https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/27/economism/#what-would-i-do-if-i-were-a-horse

The neoliberal revolution was a triumph for economism. Neoliberal theorists like Milton Friedman replaced "political economy" with "law and economics," the idea that we should turn every one of our complicated, nuanced, contingent qualitative goals into a crispy defined "objective" criteria. Friedman and his merry band of Chicago School economists replaced traditional antitrust (which sought to curtail the corrupting power of large corporations) with a theory called "consumer welfare" that used mathematics to decide which monopolies were "efficient" and therefore good (spoiler: monopolists who paid Friedman's pals to do this mathematical analysis always turned out to be running "efficient" monopolies):

https://pluralistic.net/2022/02/20/we-should-not-endure-a-king/

One of Friedman's signal achievements was the theory of "shareholder supremacy." In 1970, the New York Times published Friedman's editorial "The Social Responsibility of Business Is to Increase Its Profits":

https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/13/archives/a-friedman-doctrine-the-social-responsibility-of-business-is-to.html

In it, Friedman argued that corporate managers had exactly one job: to increase profits for shareholders. All other considerations – improving the community, making workers' lives better, donating to worthy causes or sponsoring a little league team – were out of bounds. Managers who wanted to improve the world should fund their causes out of their paychecks, not the corporate treasury.

Friedman cloaked his hymn to sociopathic greed in the mantle of objectivism. For capitalism to work, corporations have to solve the "principal-agent" problem, the notoriously thorny dilemma created when one person (the principal) asks another person (the agent) to act on their behalf, given the fact that the agent might find a way to line their own pockets at the principal's expense (for example, a restaurant server might get a bigger tip by offering to discount diners' meals).

Any company that is owned by stockholders and managed by a CEO and other top brass has a huge principal-agent problem, and yet, the limited liability, joint-stock company had produced untold riches, and was considered the ideal organization for "capital formation" by Friedman et al. In true economismist form, Friedman treated all the qualitative questions about the duty of a company as noise and edited them out of the equation, leaving behind a single, elegant formulation: "a manager is doing their job if they are trying to make as much money as possible for their shareholders."

Friedman's formulation was a hit. The business community ran wild with it. Investors mistook an editorial in the New York Times for an SEC rulemaking and sued corporate managers on the theory that they had a "fiduciary duty" to "maximize shareholder value" – and what's more, the courts bought it. Slowly and piecemeal at first, but bit by bit, the idea that rapacious greed was a legal obligation turned into an edifice of legal precedent. Business schools taught it, movies were made about it, and even critics absorbed the message, insisting that we needed to "repeal the law" that said that corporations had to elevate profit over all other consideration (not realizing that no such law existed).

It's easy to see why shareholder supremacy was so attractive for investors and their C-suite Renfields: it created a kind of moral crumple-zone. Whenever people got angry at you for being a greedy asshole, you could shrug and say, "My hands are tied: the law requires me to run the business this way – if you don't believe me, just ask my critics, who insist that we must get rid of this law!"

In a long feature for The American Prospect, Adam M Lowenstein tells the story of how shareholder supremacy eventually came into such wide disrepute that the business lobby felt that it had to do something about it:

https://prospect.org/power/2024-09-17-ponzi-scheme-of-promises/

It starts in 2018, when Jamie Dimon and Warren Buffett decried the short-term, quarterly thinking in corporate management as bad for business's long-term health. When Washington Post columnist Steve Pearlstein wrote a column agreeing with them and arguing that even moreso, businesses should think about equities other than shareholder returns, Jamie Dimon lost his shit and called Pearlstein to call it "the stupidest fucking column I’ve ever read":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/07/will-ending-quarterly-earnings-guidance-free-ceos-to-think-long-term/

But the dam had broken. In the months and years that followed, the Business Roundtable would adopt a series of statements that repudiated shareholder supremacy, though of course they didn't admit it. Rather, they insisted that they were clarifying that they'd always thought that sometimes not being a greedy asshole could be good for business, too. Though these statements were nonbinding, and though the CEOs who signed them did so in their personal capacity and not on behalf of their companies, capitalism's most rabid stans treated this as an existential crisis.

Lowenstein identifies this as the forerunner to today's panic over "woke corporations" and "DEI," and – just as with "woke capitalism" – the whole thing amounted to a a PR exercise. Lowenstein links to several studies that found that the CEOs who signed onto statements endorsing "stakeholder capitalism" were "more likely to lay off employees during COVID-19, were less inclined to contribute to pandemic relief efforts, had 'higher rates of environmental and labor-related compliance violations,”' emitted more carbon into the atmosphere, and spent more money on dividends and buybacks."

One researcher concluded that "signing this statement had zero positive effect":

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/companies-stand-solidarity-are-licensing-themselves-discriminate/614947

So shareholder supremacy isn't a legal obligation, and statements repudiating shareholder supremacy don't make companies act any better.

But there's an even more fundamental flaw in the argument for the shareholder supremacy rule: it's impossible to know if the rule has been broken.

The shareholder supremacy rule is an unfalsifiable proposition. A CEO can cut wages and lay off workers and claim that it's good for profits because the retained earnings can be paid as a dividend. A CEO can raise wages and hire more people and claim it's good for profits because it will stop important employees from defecting and attract the talent needed to win market share and spin up new products.

A CEO can spend less on marketing and claim it's a cost-savings. A CEO can spend more on marketing and claim it's an investment. A CEO can eliminate products and call it a savings. A CEO can add products and claim they're expansions into new segments. A CEO can settle a lawsuit and claim they're saving money on court fees. A CEO can fight a lawsuit through to the final appeal and claim that they're doing it to scare vexatious litigants away by demonstrating their mettle.

CEOs can use cheaper, inferior materials and claim it's a savings. They can use premium materials and claim it's a competitive advantage that will produce new profits. Everything a company does can be colorably claimed as an attempt to save or make money, from sponsoring the local little league softball team to treating effluent to handing ownership of corporate landholdings to perpetual trusts that designate them as wildlife sanctuaries.

Bribes, campaign contributions, onshoring, offshoring, criminal conspiracies and conference sponsorships – there's a business case for all of these being in line with shareholder supremacy.

Take Boeing: when the company smashed its unions and relocated key production to scab plants in red states, when it forced out whistleblowers and senior engineers who cared about quality, when it outsourced design and production to shops around the world, it realized a savings. Today, between strikes, fines, lawsuits, and a mountain of self-inflicted reputational harm, the company is on the brink of ruin. Was Boeing good to its shareholders? Well, sure – the shareholders who cashed out before all the shit hit the fan made out well. Shareholders with a buy-and-hold posture (like the index funds that can't sell their Boeing holdings so long as the company is in the S&P500) got screwed.

Right wing economists criticize the left for caring too much about "how big a slice of the pie they're getting" rather than focusing on "growing the pie." But that's exactly what Boeing management did – while claiming to be slaves to Friedman's shareholder supremacy. They focused on getting a bigger slice of the pie, screwing their workers, suppliers and customers in the process, and, in so doing, they made the pie so much smaller that it's in danger of disappearing altogether.

Here's the principal-agent problem in action: Boeing management earned bonuses by engaging in corporate autophagia, devouring the company from within. Now, long-term shareholders are paying the price. Far from solving the principal-agent problem with a clean, bright-line rule about how managers should behave, shareholder supremacy is a charter for doing whatever the fuck a CEO feels like doing. It's the squishiest rule imaginable: if someone calls you cruel, you can blame the rule and say you had no choice. If someone calls you feckless, you can blame the rule and say you had no choice. It's an excuse for every season.

The idea that you can reduce complex political questions – like whether workers should get a raise or whether shareholders should get a dividend – to a mathematical rule is a cheap sleight of hand. The trick is an obvious one: the stuff I want to do is empirically justified, while the things you want are based in impossible-to-pin-down appeals to emotion and its handmaiden, ethics. Facts don't care about your feelings, man.

But it's feelings all the way down. Milton Friedman's idol-worshiping cult of shareholder supremacy was never about empiricism and objectivity. It's merely a gimmick to make greed seem scientifically optimal.


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Bug des Tages (in Firefox):
It's caused by GCC. Tested latest trunk and when it's built with GCC it paints AVIFs as black.
Was war passiert? gcc hat ein Inline-Assembler-Statement wegoptimiert. Hier kann man den Fix einsehen. Der markiert einfach die Statements alle als volatile, das ist sozusagen der Holzhammer-Fix.

Ich kenne jetzt diese libyuv nicht, in der das passiert ist, aber das hätte natürlich vor dem Release auffallen müssen, mit Unit Tests.

Was man im Patch nicht sieht: Die erste Datei im Patch, das betrifft nur MIPS und MIPS64-Systeme. Vielleicht hat es daher keiner gemerkt? Plattform zu obskur?

Ich habe mal eine der Funktionen darunter angeguckt, die haben "memory" als clobber deklariert. Das hätte gcc m.E. nicht rausoptimieren dürfen.

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PSA: OpenAI-LLMs nach ihrer Herleitung fragen führt zu Accountsperre.

Wir erinnern uns: Dass man die Herleitung sehen kann, war genau das hauptsächliche Werbeargument für das aktuelle LLM von denen.

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